dadou Posted December 31, 2010 Report Posted December 31, 2010 The peace of Christmas is very short this year ! As Barry , I think that an AV production is a final product .But , as Ken , Xaver and others , I love from time to time to understand how it is done .I thought that this forum had a pedagogic destination ....Fatal error !Perharps it would be necesary to open a new section : " PTE Great Masters productions" or something near ? No discussion, only contemplation ...Happy new year to all , magnific av and slide shows !daniel . Quote
Barry Beckham Posted December 31, 2010 Author Report Posted December 31, 2010 Daniel I love from time to time to understand how it is done - Now that is a different thing and something I can more understand.Happy new year. Of course the new year reaches us all at different times doesn't it. Quote
Ken Cox Posted December 31, 2010 Report Posted December 31, 2010 "I love from time to time to understand how it is done - Now that is a different thing and something I can more understand."Barrythat is what we have been trying to convince you of all along ken Quote
smithrg Posted December 31, 2010 Report Posted December 31, 2010 How dare we mere mortals, to criticize, The Masters show.This is totally unacceptably, since we all know he is the self-proclaimed worlds best photographer/AV producer.(But not mere slide shows) The rest of us forum members should not show our blurred, stupid and ill-lighted snapshots, because,these sort of things upsets The Master. Please, those of us that are simple snap shooters, (I dare say that is most of the over six thousand members) pleasepay homage, and refrain from agitating someone that so much enjoys criticizing and bullying others. Seriously, the guy is a totally different person,on his tutorial DVD's (I have even bought a few.) He is a very goodinstructor, but acts like a butt on this forum. I feel that since he has written so many negative things, in this thread, and others, I could state my humble opinion, also. Best regards,and a happy, prosperous 2011, Gayland. Quote
Ken Cox Posted December 31, 2010 Report Posted December 31, 2010 GEE GaylandCAN I GET OFF MY PRAYER RUG NOW?ken Quote
Barry Beckham Posted January 1, 2011 Author Report Posted January 1, 2011 GaylandOh dear.I nearly caught your dummy as it flew out of the pram, but thrown with such vigour, I missed it. At least I stired you into a response. but you have missed the point, again. I have been working on the same slide show, taking on board some of the comments made, to see if I could get it more to my liking. I prbably have to be honest. Apart from the frame of course.Relax mate and recognice when someone is smiling at you, when their talking. Quote
Barry Beckham Posted January 1, 2011 Author Report Posted January 1, 2011 Despite Gaylands views, I have been working on another version in light of peoples views.PC only for the moment below. Its a different style completely, and the birds twittereing didn't seem to fit in this version, but I have kept the rain in.Download from Here Quote
Ken Cox Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 Barrygreat improvementbut some transitions are not smoothI nearly missed the one water drop -- wished for kc music has greatly improved -- the whole sequence is almost a scene from a Stalone movieken Quote
dadou Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 What a difference , Barry !The music , the tempo , give a more real atmosphere to your show !As Ken, ones transitions could be more smooth , but you did quickly ..Perhaps , if you autorize me : in the middle , near the river , ones transtions could be more short because the music is more brutal ; perhaps 1/2 sec ..Congratulation for your reaction !daniel Quote
trailertrash Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 Way better. I'm glad you kept the frame, I too hate to see images bleeding out. Good music and the secondary effect all the way thro. Magic.Andrew Quote
Barry Beckham Posted January 1, 2011 Author Report Posted January 1, 2011 Ken and othersYou do mean transitions and not animations don't you?Its not usual to have any problem with transitions, no matter what size the images are.I will have to test the show on another machine to see if I can see what your seeing. On my machine there are no technical isses at all.DanielI'll take a look, already fiddled with the short transitions quite a bit and I am at the stage where I seem to make a change, every time I view the show. I need a day or two away from it and then come back I think. Quote
Ken Cox Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 BARRY will have to run a stopwatch from start to first jerk and possibly that will yoube a bit as am process of burningken Quote
Ken Cox Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 BARRYwill have to run a stopwatch from start to first jerk and possibly that will help yoube a bit as am in process of burningkenthis is where one needs manual control and skype -- wou;d mke things a whole lot easierfrom black screen to rainforest title-- that is animation - +- 30 secs - stop is too rapidand from title to just before drop of water from leaf +- 58 sec there is a jerk maybe animation and not transitiondoes that helpken Quote
dadou Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 Barry Surely the champagne ...I wanted to say "animaton" ; the first one seems to begin within smoothness , too hard .The second is also an animation, 58 sec + or - after the beginning ; same impression ; surely only to put more smoothness to the beginning of the animation .I have yet the same impression about the short transitions, but I know the necesity to go to see other thing and come back to the slide show .... Quote
smithrg Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 GaylandOh dear.I nearly caught your dummy as it flew out of the pram, but thrown with such vigour, I missed it. At least I stired you into a response. but you have missed the point, again. I have been working on the same slide show, taking on board some of the comments made, to see if I could get it more to my liking. I prbably have to be honest. Apart from the frame of course.Relax mate and recognice when someone is smiling at you, when their talking. Quote
Barry Beckham Posted January 1, 2011 Author Report Posted January 1, 2011 Ken and DadouI ran the show on my older PC and then on my old laptop and I cannot recreate what your describing. There was a little error in the animation end point of the first slide, cause by all my changes, perhaps it was that which caused the jerk, but all animations have smooth starts and finishes and I am not seeing any technical issues, even on the old laptop. The longest animation is the first one and that is only 18 seconds from start to finish.Those viewing on lower resolution monitors, may see a little of the moire effect, so I have ticked the anti shimmering box. I am not a great fan of spending good money and effort to get sharp images and then softening the image in PTE, but needs must I suppose.DadouPoint taken, the short transitions could do with a tightening up. I have reduced them to 500 in the transition length, anything less doesn't look right to me, a bit too quick. I will upload this version to my web site after I have viewed it a few more times, just to make sure I am happy with it. GaylandWhat a nice smile you have, thank you for that. Quote
dadou Posted January 2, 2011 Report Posted January 2, 2011 BarryEach one has his own sensibility ...500 , 600 or 700 , you will find the good number !Perharps put a longer smooth start in the first animation ?No problem with moire effect here . daniel Quote
Bert Posted January 2, 2011 Report Posted January 2, 2011 BarryI have seen the old and new show and like this latest one better. Your pictures are as always outstanding and the dissolves and animations work perfect (on my computer). The music is an improvement over the piano music of the first show, but for me it still misses something of the atmosphere that should go with your pictures of the Rain Forest.Just my two cents.Bert Quote
gh6539 Posted January 3, 2011 Report Posted January 3, 2011 Barry,I very much enjoyed you images. The sound of rain in the opening was great. The rest of the music was some what distracting.Keep up the excellent work and have a productive New Year.George Quote
Nikonos Posted January 3, 2011 Report Posted January 3, 2011 Hi Barry, Only saw the second version so cannot comment on the original one. A very difficult subject in my opinion, but you have managed to impart the feeling of "being there". Wonderful photography (as always!) and about the right length. Not sure about the music, but that is a personal thing anyway. Also liked the SFX of the rain and wondered whether some such "low-level" material could have been used throughout - although I appreciate the difficulty of obtaining suitable source material. With regard to music - I often find that the most difficult challenge. I'm currently working on a steam traction-engine type show (yeh, I know it's been done before dozens of times), and I find it difficult to come up with something other than the usual predictable mechanical organ type stuff. Let me know if you have any ideas as my wife is beginning to show distinct signs of distress every time she hears yet another fairground organ... :-)Regards - Malcolm Quote
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