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====================== Dave, I gave your steps a try and, yes, I got the same results as you did. Gary

======================= Dave, I gave it a try and, yes, I got the same results. Gary

======================= Dave, I gave your suggestion a try. What I see is the problem with using KFSD with Scale is that the Keyframe that was placed at the precise end of the Slide Duration (beginning of the ending transition) gets moved to the end of the ending transition zone. And, if the last keyframe is placed just to the right of the beginning of the transition zone(just into the ending transition zone), and KFSD and Scale is applied with an increase in duration, this keyframe moves to the left of the beginning of the ending transition zone. My logic expects only the Keyframes that are in between the transition zones would be moved relatively (or scaled) when applying KFSD/Scaled. I follow most of this discussion, but I must admit that I do get a bit foggy with some of it. Gary

========================== Dave, I have been trying several ways; the last keyframe not in the ending transition zone; the last keyframe in the ending transition zone; and with and without KFSD clicked. Since I am not sure what the proper results should be, I think I can say that when the keyframe is within the ending transition zone, the results are confusing. Sometimes the keyframe is sent to the end of the transition zone; sometimes not. I can not explain what I am seeing but there seems to be something not consistent when the keyframe is within the ending transition zone and KFSD is applied with Scaled. Gary

======================= Nobeefstu, I see, said the blind man! Ok...there is a good reason for the different results. Thanks for clarifying the question. In an effort to fully understand what KFSD means, does it only just SHOW the Full Slide Duration (adding in the transition times)...it doesnt' really change any settings for the slide durations? Gary

======================= Lin, Interesting that we get different results. I am using Win7Pro/32bit. The text in the Users Guide, I agree, is correct, but the examples they show don't seem to be correct. How can the duration times be the same before and after the Scale, as show in the attached screenshots in my previous posting? What am I missing??? Gary

================================= Lin, I have been playing around with this Scaling. I see it does change the relationships of the Keyframes in a relative way, but the results are not exactly what I expect. I tried your example of putting in a Keyframe at 0:0, 2:0 and 4:0 for a slide with a duration of 8 seconds. Then, I changed the duration to 16, with the 'Scale' on. The results did not produce the expected exact timings of 0:0, 4:0 and 8:0. I got 0:0, 3.684 and 7:368. Close but not as expected. See attached. Maybe it has to do with the transition times, but I really don't know why. So do you agree that the User Guide is incorrect? Gary

=========================== Lin, Thanks for pointing out these menu items. I did not understand what they did so I had not fooled with them. They kind of work to a certain point but not in a way that I would like them to work. The 'Scale Keyframes' only works image by image. It does not work if you want to adjust the duration of the entire slideshow and have all the keyframes in every slide to be 'scaled' when the duration is changed. It would be nice if it also worked in the Project Options/Main/Timing menu. I had not notice the Ctrl E choice. It is OK but wouldn't it be nicer to be able to highlight the keyframes you want to move as a group and then just drag them to where you want them to be. There is so much to understand in the PTE menus that just does not pop out right away. I think one of the best improvements that Igor can make is to put 'mouseovers' on most every menu item to explain what it really means and what it really does. It is obvious once you know; not so when you don't. I took a look at the User Guide for 'Scale Keyframes'. Now that I have a better understanding of what it does, I don't think the example in the Guide is correct (?). See attached. Thanks for the help. Gary

========================= Dave, That is pretty funny. It looks like my brain is not as fast as yours! After re-reading your post, I now remember reading it back then. But it did not dawn on me what you were referring to. I guess I had to come to the same conclusion on my own. But we are on the same page on this. /> What about my other ideas? Thanks... Gary

Suggestions for improvements: 1-Autosave Notice. I was playing around with a slideshow, experimenting with various different menu items. I didn't want to actually save anything. I was just testing different menu items to see what would happen. After a long session I closed the slideshow (without saving). I noticed that some of the last changes, in fact, had been saved to the slideshow. It was fortunate that I did not make too many drastic changes and I was able to get the slideshow back to its original state. I had forgotten that the Autosave had been selected in the Settings/Preferences menu. My suggestion is that, when the Autosave has been selected, a notification warning will pop up in the main screen, perhaps to the left of the Comment window. It can be very dangerous to forget the Autosave has been selected if you make changes that you don't really want to save. A notification in the main screen might help to avoid a potential problem. 2- Relative Keyframes. I have noticed that keyframes do not adjust in a relative fashion when the slide's duration is changed. When a slide's duration is changed, the keyframes remain in their absolute positions. I suggest that there be a way, when you increase or decrease the duration of a slide or group of slides, that the keyframes will adjust in a relative way to the total change. This would be helpful, for example, when you need to increase/decrease the duration of a group of the slides to match up with the audio's length. Currently, if you increase/decrease the duration of a group of slides, you have to go back into each slide that has multiple keyframes and readjust them. If we could have the choice to have the keyframes readjust relative to the increase/decrease in a change in the slides' duration, it would help to maintain the keyframes' relative positions. 3- Latch audio files in Timeline. It would be helpful to have the ability to temporarily latch adjacent audio files together. This would allow the shifting of a group of audio files together, without disrupting any crossfading you have already carefully set. Using the Ctrl key to select the audio files would be intuitive. 4- Latch keyframes together. It would be helpful to have the ability to temporarily latch adjacent keyframes together. This would allow the shifting of a group of keyframes without losing their relative positions. Using the Ctrl key to select the keyframes would be intuitive. 5- Allow the expansion of the O&A's keyframe timeline. It would be very helpful to be able to expand the O&A's keyframe timeline when you are working with multiple keyframes that are very close together, similar to how the Timeline can be expanded. Gary

====================== Igor, That would be great. Here is another example of this problem. I just happened to take a look at a PTE tutorial that someone had made for sound editing. When I openned the PTE project, the File List showed my files from one of my previous projects. It would be very helpful if PTE would automatically show the the files in the File List window that pertain to to PTE project as it is openned in PTE, so we don't have to Browse to set the proper location of the source files. Thanks, Gary

===================== Dave, Ok...So I have to 'fix' each of the older shows that don't 'remember' their associated folders that apply to them. And it should not happen again. Future version will remember the associated folders. Got it. Thanks... Gary

========================== Peter, Ok...but I am not sure if I am understanding fully. If I read these posts correctly, my problem occurs because I have tried to open an old show in a new version. The old version did not have the code to remember the associated folders. So, if I go through the Browse process for each of my older shows in our latest version and set the folder locations for its File List and Audio and do a Save As, the problem will not occur again with those shows? I just have to bring them up-to-date? Thanks, Gary

Dave, Ok...I will get into it later. Thanks... Gary

=================== Dave.... Hmmmmm.... I am using 7.5.2. It would be nice, if after setting the folder for the project in the File List location, PTE would use that location as the intial default for its initial Save As and adding Audio and other functions. Gary

=============================== Dave, "If you open an older project and save it as a 7.5 version it will always open the correct folder from that point onwards?" Perhaps that will be the case. Time will tell as I use the 7.5 version. But as we get new versions, won't the 'problem' persist? Now, let me add a couple other similar 'aggrivations'. Let's say I now have the correct folder displayed in the File List window. When I do a Save As, I have to Browse to that same folder location. Wouldn't it be nice if PTE would pick up that same folder that is in the File List window as the initial default location? Then, let's assume that I have now done a Save As to save the new project into the proper folder (that contains all of my images). Then when I want to add an audio file to the project, I go into Project Options and choose Audio, the location that appears is not the folder that I just did a Save AS to. I have to then do a Browse again to find the correct folder. I would like it to default to the Saved As folder because I am using the logic to put all of my images and audio files in the same folder. Wouldn't it be nice if PTE would select the Save As folder as the initial default folder for the initial look for Audio files? Gary

Greetings, When I open a previously created PTE show (.pte), usually the files associated with the show will appear in the File List window. However, every so often, the files in the File List window will display the files from a different show and I have to hunt to the location (folder) for the correct files for the show I want to work on. What is creating this difference? I am not saying there is a problem but it is just an inconvenience that I'd like to avoid if I understood why this is happening. I know that if I browse to the correct folder and then show it in the File List window and save the project, the next time I open the project, the correct folder appears in the File List window. But why did it the correct folder not appear in the first place? Thanks… Gary

================================ Thanks Davy. We didn't have a 'white Christmas' , but we did get a Day-After-Christmas-White Christmas! Gary

================= Thanks, Lin. We actually got a little snow today! Almost a white Christmas... Gary

====================== Thanks, Ralph. They are fun to make. Have a good year. Gary

======================== Thanks, Barry. I'll send you a PM. Gary

This is a Christmas card from me to everyone. The video portion is a JibJab video that I put into PTE with text and a couple tree images. Happy New Year!!!! http://www.beechbrook.com/pte/ Gary

======================== Dave, I was looking for something like these: Part 1- http://www.youtube.c...h?v=doMHTiGVc1A Part 2- http://www.youtube.c...h?v=7A6dJkZsYoI I don't want to get into 3D or cubes or eagles flying by windows. /> I can show samples of these after a video of the basics. I don't think I could put one together with such precision, so I was hoping to find something like the Part 1 and 2 above, but for 7.5. I just want to get our photo club interested in creating 'photo essays' and get beyond the competitions, etc., that we normally do. Gary

Greetings, I have been 'volunteered' to give a presentation on how PTE works to my photo club next year. I have been searching for a YouTube-like video that will go through the basics of what PTE can do. I have seen a Part 1 and Part 2 YouTube video for Version 6.5 that is pretty nice. But I am wondering if there is, or will be, one for 7.5. I know there are many tutorials on individual how-to's but I'd like one that is an overall demo to give the audience a good overview of PTE 7.5. Is there one out there yet???? Thanks... Gary

=================== Dave, No...my wife has it at office so I haven't had a chance to get my hands on it. It's like a dog with a bone...I have to wait for the right monment....:D/>. But I will give it a try as soon as I can. Thanks... Gary