davegee Posted June 19, 2012 Report Posted June 19, 2012 Lin,Back in December you said:"Hi Gary,Unfortunately, I can't afford to buy the software I would like to use anymore so for video editing, I use the free version of VideoPad Video Editor. I generally save the output from my edits in VideoPad in MP4 format, then let PTE do its variable bitrate conversion using 100% quality on the slider - but that's only if I'm using a high resolution video. Many of my video inserts are rather tiny and used for special effects such as fire animation or other output from Particleillusions which don't really need super high video quality because the viewer can't see any difference regardless of bitrate, etc. ..............................Best regards, Lin"I have been taking a look at VideoPad and I'm generally impressed.However, when I tried to save a Movie in MP4 format I had an error message which told me that I needed the Pro version to do this.Can you explain what needs to be done to Save As an MP4 from the free version?Apologies if this was covered subsequently.DG Quote
Lin Evans Posted June 19, 2012 Report Posted June 19, 2012 Hi Dave,I don't believe the free version supports MP4 any longer, but rather limits one. You can still "input" MP4 but the output can only be saved to avi, wmv, asf or DVD. I reloaded the latest version a couple weeks ago and noticed this too. Since PTE converts to AVI for internal use anyway I suppose it doesn't matter, but still annoying. I don't know which version I had when I answered Gary.I generally only use it these days to fade in and fade out audio. I'm thinking about getting Adobe Premiere Elements which is far superior from what everyone tells me.Unfortunately I'm severely limited right now in funding so will have to wait a few months.Best regards,Lin Quote
RobertAlbright Posted June 19, 2012 Report Posted June 19, 2012 Hi Dave,I don't believe the free version supports MP4 any longer, but rather limits one. You can still "input" MP4 but the output can only be saved to avi, wmv, asf or DVD. I reloaded the latest version a couple weeks ago and noticed this too. Since PTE converts to AVI for internal use anyway I suppose it doesn't matter, but still annoying. I don't know which version I had when I answered Gary.I generally only use it these days to fade in and fade out audio. I'm thinking about getting Adobe Premiere Elements which is far superior from what everyone tells me.Unfortunately I'm severely limited right now in funding so will have to wait a few months.Best regards,Lin Quote
RobertAlbright Posted June 19, 2012 Report Posted June 19, 2012 I've had the same experience, Lin, with VideoPad - AVI output, no MPEG 4.You say you generally only use it these days to fade audio in and out - but surely you can do this anyway in PTE?What would be really useful in PTE would be to be able to cut up the video into segments ready to drop into the sequence of still images already on the timeline. The unneeded parts can simply be deleted. I think this functionality must be quite simple to implement technically as it's available in all the free download video editing programs.Is this asking too much of PTE? Quote
Lin Evans Posted June 19, 2012 Report Posted June 19, 2012 Hi Robert,There is as yet no way to adjust the audio on a video in PTE except to mute it, so I use VideoPad to create fade-in and fade-out on the video's audio track. Of course you could use a 3rd party software to extract the audio track as an MP3, mute the audio on the video, insert the MP3 as the audio and apply the full envelope features to suit. But this then would possibly compromise audio synchronization with the video depending on individual circumstances.It is already possible to achieve segmenting the video in PTE, but it is a bit awkward. We don't know yet what Igor has in mind for future versions, but hopefully the ability to apply an envelope to the audio track in a video would be very useful as would simplified cropping (which is the word used to describe this action in PTE). To "segment" into separate clips, you need to put the "start time" and "stop time" in and save the output to a different name. Repeat this process as needed using the original video each time to achieve the various "segments" to use in your show.Best regards,Lin Quote
davegee Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Posted June 20, 2012 Igor's first try at incorporating video is not far short of being "perfect".What V7.5 needs to have in order to make it fully useable is:The ability to fade the video sound track in and out in step with the transition time.Feedback between the Cropping Utility and the Timeline.A graphical representation of the Video Sound Track along with the other Audio Tracks in a "multi track" waveform with envelope facilities.At present if you have to Fade In/Out using VideoPad then you must also do any necessary trimming/cropping in VideoPad making PTE's Cropping Utility redundant.If you don't need to Fade In/Out then it is already Practically Perfect.IMHO as always - other opinions are available.DG Quote
RobertAlbright Posted June 20, 2012 Report Posted June 20, 2012 Thanks Lin and Dave. Until now I've done my video cropping in VideoPad. I hadn't realised you could do this in PTE using start and stop times. I'd still welcome a graphical (rather than numerical) method of doing this operation in PTE. I take your points about audio fade in and fade out. Quote
xahu34 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Posted June 20, 2012 ...What V7.5 needs to have in order to make it fully useable is:The ability to fade the video sound track in and out in step with the transition time.Feedback between the Cropping Utility and the Timeline.A graphical representation of the Video Sound Track along with the other Audio Tracks in a "multi track" waveform with envelope facilities....Let's see what will be in v7.5. In my understanding, this feature means that in this situation the audio part will be played independently from the video decoding process. We then have something like the situation described by Lin above, where the audio part is inserted as an independent track. By the way, this is the solution offered by m.objects: There you insert the video twice, into a video track (with muted audio), and into an audio track (only the audio part is played). And of course, there are functions to manipulate the audio track.On the other hand, if we do not like this kind of separated playback (regarding synchronization), it will better to use a video editor.Regards,Xaver Quote
davegee Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Posted June 20, 2012 How it is acheived is not really my concern. Igor has that headache.I would like to see the Video clip inserted once and then the Audio be subjected to the same influences as the Video - i.e. if you fade the Video in and/or out then the Audio is faded in and/or out in the same time duration.This is what is needed.DG Quote
xahu34 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Posted June 20, 2012 How it is acheived is not really my concern. Igor has that headache.I would like to see the Video clip inserted once and then the Audio be subjected to the same influences as the Video - i.e. if you fade the Video in and/or out then the Audio is faded in and/or out in the same time duration.This is what is needed ...I wish you good luck Regards,Xaver Quote
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