Transparent To Selection

[JEB]

Hi,

I think I may have raised this issue in the past but can't recall getting any feedback, presumably because nobody else finds this a problem.

It may well be the way I work but I find it quite irritating that "Transparent to selection" has to be selected, rather than having the option for it to be set as a default.

Does anybody else share my view?

If so I would be happy to post this as a suggestion for the future.

Cheers

John

[Lin Evans]

Hi John,

Which version of PTE are you working with?? There is no "transparent to selection" tool choice in Version 6.5, 7.5 or version 8 to my knowledge??? Do you mean "Ignore Objects not Selected?

Best regards,

Lin

[Jean-Cyprien]

I believe they have the same action

[Lin Evans]

Hi John,

AFAIK, if the "Ignore Objects Not Selected" is defaulted to on in the "Tools" menu, then the "Transparent to Selection" feature of the "Common" tab is superfluous. If the Ignore Objects Not Selected" is toggled off, then the "Transparent to Selection" feature will perform the identical function, but only for the current project.

The reasoning for this is that not everyone works in the same manner. Without either Transparent to Selection or Ignore Objects Not Selected selected, once a second keyframe has been placed on the timeline in Objects and Animations, clicking and holding the mouse cursor down allows only the top object in the stack to be manipulated without accidentally moving one of the other objects. Without this, it's fairly easy to forget which object is currently selected and accidentally move an object which wasn't intended. Some users like to move objects up and down in the stack to manipulate them, then place them in the order preferred. Other users like to simply click on an object in the stack and then click inside the bounding rectangle to move or manipulate the object. It's a user choice thing.

Whether the feature is turned on or off by default then becomes quite arbitrary depending on one's workflow. The "Transparent To Selection" feature was originally located in the Tools set where "Ignore Objects Not Selected" currently resides. I believe that was changed with version 6.0 or 6.5.

Where a consensus could be reached about whether to turn the features on or off by default is problematic. We all have different workflows so perhaps you could organize a "vote" on this to see what current thinking is.

Best regards,

Lin

[jt49]

This my view:

• Ignore objects not selected: A feature with influence on the behavior of the O&A editor
  
• Transparent to selection: A feature of a particular object, to be transparent with respect to mouse clicks while the show is running
  

Regards,

jt

[PGA]

jt has it right.

I fell foul of this just before Christmas when I rebuilt a menu and used some Frame objects. One Frame object overlaid two of the buttons. Of course, the Frame being an object with opacity=zero, I could still see the buttons. But, after I Published the EXE, these two buttons could not be used because the Frame wasn't set for Transparent to Selection.

"Ignore objects not selected" means that, when you click on an object in the Object List, even if it is hidden by other objects, you can still grab its bounding box and drag it around.

regards,

Peter

[JEB]

Hi,

Thanks all for your replies.

Lin, I was not aware of "Ignore Objects Not Selected", Having switched it on now I think this is going to resolve my issue having tried to replicate the issue that prompted me to make my post.

I assume you now realise that "T to S" exists under the Common Tab in O&A. As far as I am concerned I no longer see any need for this to be switched on as a default.

Thanks

John

[Lin Evans]

Hi John,

It's explained in the Wiki (transparent to selection), but we need to still expand the "tools" button to explain the functions there including "ignore objects not selected."

Best regards,

Lin