Making MP4 in PTE [SOLVED]

[Bert]

I have made a slide show in the latest PTE 8.0.12 and published it as an EXE and an MP4.

The EXE file looks fine when played. When the MP4 file is played, the colors are over saturated and look to garish.

This is the same if I play the MP4 in Windows Media Player or in Windows Media player Classic.

I never had this problem before, but this the first time that I made an MP4 in PTE 8.0.12

Has anybody else seen this problem with the latest PTE?

If possible can maybe somebody make an MP4 from a slide show on there computer with PTE 8.0.12 and compare it to an EXE from the same made show.

All the images are in the sRGB colorspace>

Any suggestions what to do?

Thanks,

Bert

[davegee]

Bert,

Just to start the questions, are you using the default high quality preset or have you customized anything?

Have you tried Igor's recommended Media Player Classic-Home Cinema?

DG

[davegee]

Hi Bert,

I have tried a test as you requested and, Yes......the colours in the MP4 version are more saturated than in the EXE version.

I have never noticed this before.

Time to load up a previous Beta and test....... but not tonight.

DG

[Bert]

Hi Dave,

Yes I am using the default high quality presets for making the MP4, and as I wrote when played back in Media Player Classic Home Cinema or in Windows Media Player or in VLC media player,

the colors are way to much saturated.

I think it is a PTE problem.

Bert

[Lin Evans]

Hi Bert,

Which exact build of PTE are you using? I'm using 8.0.11 and I see absolutely zero difference in saturation between my exe and mp4 on a single image test as linked below:

http://www.lin-evans.org/colortest/colortest.zip (exe)

http://www.lin-evans.org/colortest/colortestmp4.zip (mp4)

See how your player reacts to this mp4 versus the exe. On all my systems they are identical. Hopefully we can find the cause...

Best regards,

Lin

[Igor]

Hi Bert,

There is only subtle difference in colors between MP4 video and EXE file. However colors should not be oversaturated in a video file.

Please check color settings for video output in the control panel of your video card (Nvidia Control Panel or AMD Catalyst Panel). Set "Saturation" to zero and turn off all color enhancers ("Auto contrast", "Auto colors" "Super picture", etc).

These color settings affect all video players.

[Guest Yachtsman1]

Personally, I have never had to "re-tune" my settings as Igor suggests & I suspect, that like me the average user would not know where to start. Surely it shouldn't be necessary to change these settings just to publish an MP4 in PTE, then possibly have to re-set them when watching an MP4 from my camera?

Yachtsman1.

[davegee]

In a comparison of screen grabs from exe and mp4 the difference is obvious.

DG

[davegee]

I checked my settings for Video and they were completely flat - 50% Saturation and 180 for Hue.

The video was "oversaturated" compared to the EXE.

I tried the alternative setting of "use the video player setting" and this made the EXE and Video appear the same.

Please note that the settings refered to are purely for "Video" and do not for "Display". In my case they are found in the nVidia Control Panel.

I seem to remember that Igor has mentioned this on another occasion and I "thought" that I had addressed it at that time. Can these settings change after a Driver update??

DG

[Lin Evans]

Hi Dave,

I believe it's entirely possible for settings to change between driver updates. Though it would probably be wise for a manufacturer of software to be consistent in their defaults from iteration to iteration, sometimes they are not and at times questions or check boxes are presented during installation and the final result may depend on the response of the person conducting the installation. I haven't updated my nVidia drivers since I installed my latest GTX 750 Ti card because each driver update in the past year has only been related to features I can't access with my XT OS. On my development system which I maintain as more or less the "least common denominator" I see absolutely zero apparent differences between generated MP4's and executable colors. On my rather powerful display system which runs Win 8.1 with a near top-end nVidia video card and maximum possible resources, the situation is identical except my display itself (a 30" 2560x1600 LCD) oversaturates everything by default. Even with this, there is no perceptible difference between the generated MP4 and generated exe in saturation or hue.

These issues, I believe, have nothing to do with PTE's generated code but are entirely the result of differences in the GPU settings applied to video. Only Igor can say but my take is that PTE from iteration to iteration is consistent. There has been some experimentation with possibly initiating colorspace awareness but this has not been realized in the present code AFAIK...

Best regards,

Lin

[Igor]

Try the following:

1. Create a MP4 video in PicturesToExe/

2. Add this MP4 file to a slide in your project.

3. Create EXE file & run it.

4. Compare colors.

Settings of a video card does not affect to video clips added to PicturesToExe and you can compare colors.

[Bert]

Thanks for all your suggestions, I did the following tests.

In PTE 8.0.12 I made a MP4 of an old show, where I hade made already a MP4 from some time ago in PTE 8.0.8. The MP4 looked the same as the older MP4,not over saturated. So the problem seems only with this particular show.

I have made the same screenshot of different files. See this dropbox link: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/gn34iy7hsxynz0m/AAA6_4iFlm_RssugvNRhNx8Aa?dl=0

No.1 Is the MP4, No.2 EXE, No.3 PTE, No.4 EXE from Igor's suggestion. No.5 Screenshot of original page without added text.

The color problem seems mainly with the pages of the Tatty Album that I used in this show, when I made an MP4, but not an EXE file of this show.

The Tatty Album I used in this show was provided by "Trailertrash" in 2010, but I checked the pages and they are in the sRGB color space.

Any suggestion?

[Bert]

Hi Bert,

Which exact build of PTE are you using? I'm using 8.0.11 and I see absolutely zero difference in saturation between my exe and mp4 on a single image test as linked below:

http://www.lin-evans.org/colortest/colortest.zip (exe)

http://www.lin-evans.org/colortest/colortestmp4.zip (mp4)

See how your player reacts to this mp4 versus the exe. On all my systems they are identical. Hopefully we can find the cause...

Best regards,

Lin

Hi Lin,

Here are 2 screen shots from the EXE and MP4 you made, as seen on my computer.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vim4de0hqwp6enl/AACLqjRwRYjgiNN-olPi5lCXa?dl=0

You say that on your computer they are the same, but I see a clear difference.

The MP4 is definitely more saturated, (More Red) but not as bad as the page I showed in the MP4 in my dropbox link before.

Bert

[Lin Evans]

Hi Bert,

Here are the two captures on my system - virtually identical.... I would look at the GPU software settings as Igor suggested...

Best regards,

Lin

[Ken Cox]

the horns are darker in the exe

ken

[Bert]

Lin, Igor,

When I look to change the setting in my AMD video card, there are so many tabs and settings (non of the ones Igor mentions) that for me, it is not really an option. (As Yachtsman mentions, I don't know where to start.

I still wonder why the MP4s, I made a couple of months ago look the same as the EXEs I made then of those same shows.

I have not changed any setting nor have I updated anything related to video. The only updates, have to do with Windows 7.

I can see by adjusting the color of my monitor, that it is manly the Red channel, what gives the wrong color in the MP4.

When I decrease that by 7% the color of the book pages in the MP4 look a lot better.

Not really a solution however.

Bert

[davegee]

Bert,

The corresponding tab in the nVidia Control Panel is clearly marked Video.

Is there no tab which suggests this?

DG

[Bert]

Dave, Lin, Igor.

Because MP4s I have made from other shows look O.K., I think the culprit is only with this show.

I have made a 1 slide project, made an MP4 from that and also an EXE file.

I have put them in a folder at this link: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/nfx7kmkavh2px65/AAD32-zk3uDQCWVylGr1f3fda?dl=0

Can you please do the following test for me.

1. Play my MP4 file on your computer. Does it look O.K. or does it look like the screen shot in the folder (To red)

2. Make an MP4 from my project file in the folder. Does that look O.K. or is the MP4 you make also to red.

When the MP4 you make looks like the EXE file, the problem must be my computer.

When the MP4 you make looks also to red like mine, the problem must be with the slides in the book.

Thanks

Bert

[davegee]

Hi Bert,

Wrong link?

All I see there is an mp4, an EXE files and a .pte file. The screen shot is not there. Th .pte file is of no use - it does not contain your original images.

Can you look at your upload again and add a Backup in ZIP of the project?

DG

[Bert]

Hi Dave,

I gave them all separate links this time.

I added a Backup zip of the project see: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ri1plfweegw3ziq/Project%20Bannack%20Book%201_Feb22-2015_14-13-02.zip?dl=0

Here is a link to my screenshot, https://www.dropbox.com/s/s7ixkg3rjujsts0/Screenshot%202015-02-21%2015.30.42.png?dl=0

Here is the link to the MP4 I made of this project, https://www.dropbox.com/s/fxueikuhf906vv4/Project%20Bannack%20Book%201.mp4?dl=0

Bert

[Bert]

Dave,

I don't know if the links only work for people who have dropbox.

Here is an other link to my Public dropbox folder with the files in there. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/x8ct37p1zp9pwzw/AAD7ZD9627FcjGiV9vSesYSra?dl=0

Hope this can work,

Thanks,

Bert

[PGA]

Hi Bert,

I don't think I see any difference between the MP4 and the EXE that I published using 8.0.11. I'll upgrade to latest version and try again.

regards,

Peter

[PGA]

OK, now I'm confused. Bert's opening post states that he is using 8.0.12. When I download the latest version from the v8 topic here on the forum I get 8.0.11. When I download the latest version from the wnsoft.com site I get 8.0.11. So what is this 8.0.12 that Bert is using?

regards,

Peter

[davegee]

Bert,

I am seeing no colour differences between the EXE and MP4 versions (8.0.12).

DG

P.S. Some further thoughts here:

http://www.picturestoexe.com/forums/index.php?/topic/18282-graphics-cardvideo-settings/#entry122063

[Guest Yachtsman1]

OK, now I'm confused. Bert's opening post states that he is using 8.0.12. When I download the latest version from the v8 topic here on the forum I get 8.0.11. When I download the latest version from the wnsoft.com site I get 8.0.11. So what is this 8.0.12 that Bert is using?

regards,

Peter

Could it have been withdrawn, I may be wrong but wasn't it mentioned in connection with another thread. I didn't download it at the time as I think other problems were mentioned. :unsure:

Yachtsman1.