Slideshows displayed via DVD/PAL TV

[leonard]

Hi everybody,

I have no difficulty producing slideshows with PTE and getting an acceptable display via the executable file(s) on a PC. The situation is totally different however when I produce a slideshow for display on a DVD/TV combination using the avi route. I have tried a number of codecs including the PTE one, but although there are some differences the end result bears little comparison with the exe.

It has been suggested that the 'problem' may lie with the PAL (or NSTC) format used with non HD TV.

Has anyone (in europe) found a solution?

I would appreciate any comments from interested members on this subject.

regards

leonard

PS I posted this topic in PTE but got no feedback. Hope I have more luck here.

[Ken Cox]

Len

see

http://www.picturestoexe.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3943

http://www.picturestoexe.com/forums/index....334entry25334

now Al, Hawk and myself are from Canada, but Jeff is from the UK

we did some real testing in these threads and i thought we summed up our findings pretty well

i do not have widescreen/hd tv but i did get access to widescreen and a 100" screen/projector as documented in the first thread

As far as i know we are all happy with our test results -- Hawk and i tested on 4:3 tv's then took our work elsewhwere -- Al has a Projector set up, Jell got a pile of treats as well -- I would not have taken my stuff to the outside world if i wasn't pretty sure it was going to be ok

study the info that has been written - the answer may be there

ken

[leonard]

Hi Ken,

Thanks for your interest, sorry for the delay in responding.

I have followed the links and didn't find anything which helped me.

I have just posted a message on the PTE forum in reply to PeterS. I would appreciate it if you could read that response.

If you, or any other member has any more advice or comments on this subject I would really appreciate further ideas.

[Ken Cox]

Len

copy and paste your reply in the other section to your entry in this thread

this is the video section

and your questions should be posted here

ken

[Hawk]

Hi leonard

It has been suggested that the 'problem' may lie with the PAL (or NSTC) format used with non HD TV.

I have been reading your post and replies and am unclear as weather or not you are trying to create a 16:9 wide sceen High Definition DVD or a 4:3 DVD, could you clarify this for me.

Also helpful, could you post your computer specs and video editing software / burning software your using.

[leonard]

Hi leonard

I have been reading your post and replies and am unclear as weather or not you are trying to create a 16:9 wide sceen High Definition DVD or a 4:3 DVD, could you clarify this for me.

Also helpful, could you post your computer specs and video editing software / burning software your using.

Hi Hawk,

Thanks for your interest in my 'problem'.

1. 4:3 not 16:9

2. 3.2GHz CPU, multiple 300GB high speed SATA HDs, Matrox Parhelia APVe graphics, 2 GB high speed RAM.

3. PTE/Prem El2/Prem Pro2/Encore2. Have tried ProShow Gold/ULead etc - no difference

I'm totally convinced that those of you who experience 'satisfactory' results use wide-screen/HD TVs, where by definition (!) you are bound to get far better results than I. I live in the UK where widespread acceptance and availabilty of HD TV is some few years away. As I wont be around to witness this revolution, and as I cant see any immediate/quick solution, I have now decided not to waste any more time on this subject.

Can you, or anyone else reading this post, please recommend a good DVD/CD boot program that incorporates a first class editable menu/button system, so that I can introduce a professional look to PC played PTE slideshows?

In future, I will try to post A/Qs in the right area!

regards

leonard

[Ken Cox]

Leonard

I use 4:3 tv in my house and so do most of the other's -- ws hd plasma and lcd tv's are coming on to the market fast and furious.

I ran my tests first on standard tv's 4:3 as did Ralph, then we tested elsewhere - Al tested on his projector then on his daughter's tv

Jeff Evans is in the UK and he tested on ws tv

if you read our threads thoroughly you will see our procedures

http://www.picturestoexe.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3943

http://www.picturestoexe.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3992

ken

[Hawk]

leanard

I think there has been a bit of confusion here ( using the Custom .AVI ). As that is why I questioned 4:3 or 16:9.

Ken Cox and myself have worked together since day one of the introduction of video with Picture to Exe creating DVD’s and SVCD for 4:3 and ironed out a lot of obstacles along with suggestions from forum members in regards to using different encoding programs. Ken has tried many.

Neither Ken nor myself own a HDTV, our primary shows are all done for 4:3.

As you are aware the results compared to a computer will never match – however depending on how critical one is, my viewers and myself have still been completely satisfied with the results.

Yes you are right about presentations looking better with HDTV, I was very impressed.

** The 16:9 HDTV post ( using a Custom .AVI ) have only been results that we have accomplished in testing HDTV over the last month or so, as we feel this is a way of the future.

( even thou we may never own one )

It was a bit of a challenge posted on the forum by Al ( alrobin ) and we joined in.

May I suggest you give it another attempt – ( without Custom .AVI )

Create a small show 6 – 8 images and use same images for each test.

Good clear Images at 1024 x 768

** Disregard a Custom .AVI

Choose Video – DVD – PAL ( try Interlaced & also a Non Interlaced test on same show )

For starters use only Fades – or limit to a couple of transitions.

Sorry I cannot help you with the editing programs you have listed, as we do all our editing and burning with Nero 7, but others on the forum do use these programs and I am sure you will get any questions answered that you may have.

Can you, or anyone else reading this post, please recommend a good DVD/CD boot program that incorporates a first class editable menu/button system, so that I can introduce a professional look to PC played PTE slideshows

leanard

If you are looking to create an Autorun CD-R, menu show for computer. E-mail me and I can get a couple of Demo Shows to you.

[leonard]

Leonard

I use 4:3 tv in my house and so do most of the other's -- ws hd plasma and lcd tv's are coming on to the market fast and furious.

I ran my tests first on standard tv's 4:3 as did Ralph, then we tested elsewhere - Al tested on his projector then on his daughter's tv

Jeff Evans is in the UK and he tested on ws tv

if you read our threads thoroughly you will see our procedures

http://www.picturestoexe.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3943

http://www.picturestoexe.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3992

ken

Hi Ken,

Thanks. I've read and re-read the comments set out in the links you provide, but can find nothing that will help me.

So, I've resolved to press on regardless, down the PTE executable/PC route and wait and see if there are any improvements in hardware/software or whatever that are relevant to me in the UK situation.

Any ideas re my Q on boot software?

Leonard

leanard

I think there has been a bit of confusion here ( using the Custom .AVI ). As that is why I questioned 4:3 or 16:9.

Ken Cox and myself have worked together since day one of the introduction of video with Picture to Exe creating DVD’s and SVCD for 4:3 and ironed out a lot of obstacles along with suggestions from forum members in regards to using different encoding programs. Ken has tried many.

Neither Ken nor myself own a HDTV, our primary shows are all done for 4:3.

As you are aware the results compared to a computer will never match – however depending on how critical one is, my viewers and myself have still been completely satisfied with the results.

Yes you are right about presentations looking better with HDTV, I was very impressed.

** The 16:9 HDTV post ( using a Custom .AVI ) have only been results that we have accomplished in testing HDTV over the last month or so, as we feel this is a way of the future.

( even thou we may never own one )

It was a bit of a challenge posted on the forum by Al ( alrobin ) and we joined in.

May I suggest you give it another attempt – ( without Custom .AVI )

Create a small show 6 – 8 images and use same images for each test.

Good clear Images at 1024 x 768

** Disregard a Custom .AVI

Choose Video – DVD – PAL ( try Interlaced & also a Non Interlaced test on same show )

For starters use only Fades – or limit to a couple of transitions.

Sorry I cannot help you with the editing programs you have listed, as we do all our editing and burning with Nero 7, but others on the forum do use these programs and I am sure you will get any questions answered that you may have.

leanard

If you are looking to creating a Autorun CD-R, menu show for computer. E-mail me and I get a couple of Demo Shows to you.

Hi Ralph,

Thanks a lot for getting back to me so quickly.

I'm sorry, I should have mentioned before that I've been down the non-custom route as well, and the results are not a great deal different from the many custom/codec choices I've made. Incidentally, the best, but still not satisfactory to ME, was when I used the Video Codec DivX 6.1.1 Codec (2 logical CPU...) which is highly configurable.

I've lost count of the number of coasters I've produced during the past month!!!

Thanks for the offer - I'll email you during the next few days.

regards

leonard