Rotation in Framing...

[goddi]

Greetings Igor,

Way back in 2019, I asked if you can add 'Rotate' in Framing. You said it was not possible in PTE10.

I am asking again if it can be done with PTE12. It would be a very useful addition. Suggestions to do it with Masks or Styles have been made but I think having a Rotate in Framing would be very useful for images and video clips.

Sure, I can bring the images into PS and rotate them there. I'd like to eliminate that step. Can't do that easily with video clips.

Hope this is closer to a possibility...

Gary

[Igor]

Hi Gary,

Yes, I remember about your suggestion.

I think that when you talk about this rotation option, you also mean applying auto-sizing to the image to avoid black bars/triangles appearing around the edges of the object?

[goddi]

1 hour ago, Igor said:

Hi Gary,

Yes, I remember about your suggestion.

I think that when you talk about this rotation option, you also mean applying auto-sizing to the image to avoid black bars/triangles appearing around the edges of the object?

Greetings Igor,

All I'd like to have is the ability to Rotate an image/video when it is in Framing. I have a bad habit of not having my images level with the horizon so I have to bring each one into PS to correct it. But I have to try various %s just to get them close. Not a very precise method and time consuming.

If Framing has the ability to Rotate, along with S, X & Y, it would save a lot of time and would be more precise, an allow more animation (within Framing). Farming is a great tool but just missing the Rotate function.

Not sure about the "applying auto-sizing to the image to avoid black bars/triangles appearing around the edges of the object". I have not suggested that or understand what that would do. I usually just set my Aspect Ratio to 16:9 and go from there.

Gary

[Igor]

Gary,

I understand your task, it would be useful for many users.

Check Google Photos on a PC in web browser. It allows to rotate an image. When you rote the picture, it automatically adjust the size to avoid appearing black strips/triangles around the object borders.

[goddi]

35 minutes ago, Igor said:

Gary,

I understand your task, it would be useful for many users.

Check Google Photos on a PC in web browser. It allows to rotate an image. When you rote the picture, it automatically adjust the size to avoid appearing black strips/triangles around the object borders.

Greetings Igor,

I now understand when you mentioned 'triangles' that you'd get when you rotate an image. For me, that is not a problem. All I have to do is to Zoom in a bit in PTE after Rotation (similar to getting the same results having to crop after you rotate in PS). But to so all this in PTE, makes easier work steps...Rotate/Zoom. And it is not a destructive process.

Gary

[jkb]

4 hours ago, goddi said:

level with the horizon

Gary, why not use the Rotate C parameter?

I use this often to get horizons etc level.

Jill

[goddi]

Greetings,

You have missed the point. I like to set the image's Zoom to 98% and then set a .5 Border around the image, for example. You can't use C to just rotate the image within the Border. It rotates the image with the Border. I want to be able to rotate the image in Framing which will rotate the image within the Border.

Gary

[Tonton Bruno]

Hi goddi.

I made a quick PTE project to try to understand and what you ask for.

Is it one of this 6 vues or something différent ?

 

Please click on the images to see borders

[jienense]

Hi everyone

I think the most suitable solution, if I'm not mistaken, would be the third one I put, but I should use masks.

1ª your example

2ª Without Rotation

3ª Cone rotation

Lisbon-MapTest_Jun16-2024_18-39-42.zip

[goddi]

Greeting Tonton,

I don't really understand what your examples are to represent. All I am asking for is the ability to apply Rotation in Framing (Zooming in a bit to remove any 'triangles'). The use of Masks has been suggested but I find them too difficult, cumbersome, especially when you are dealing with a multitude of images from different cameras and different aspect ratios. Being able to Rotate an image/video in Framing as easily as it is to do Zooms and Xs and Ys in Framing, would be the most helpful addition.

Thanks...Gary

[Igor]

Gary,

We can only apply cropping to the edges of the image. It's done in Framing parameters for an Image object.

Rotation is not compatible with these parameters. Sorry.
It requires using of a Mask container. In theory we can do it in the internal code to keep things simple for users.

[goddi]

1 hour ago, Igor said:

Gary,

We can only apply cropping to the edges of the image. It's done in Framing parameters for an Image object.

Rotation is not compatible with this parameters. Sorry.
It requires using of a Mask container. In theory we can do it in the internal code to keep things simple for users.

Greetings Igor,

That is really unfortunate. Having the ability to do Rotate within Framing would open up a lot for animating within Framing.

I had hoped by now something would have made it possible to do this. I just don't like to use Mask for this purpose, especially when it has to be applied to many images/videos for minor horizontal corrections. But I keep my hopes up that one day, it can be done within Framing.

Thanks...Gary

[Igor]

Gary,

I agree with you, a simple rotation inside the picture borders would be a very useful addition for many users.

Let me think more on this issue.