Burn Exception ERROR

[sanewcomb]

Burn.exe Exception Error

I get this error when burning a DVD

Operation failed

Command - Unknown Status - Check Condition, Sense Key - MEDIUM REMOVAL PREVEN (can't read rest of error message)

This is the same error I've been seeing for several months, EXCEPT this time I installed the DVD Drive into the machine. Before this was blamed on the Firewire Connection. This has been removed and the error is the same.

P2E Beta 18

WinXP SP1

Pioneer A09 DVD drive - NOT ATTACHED by firewire UPDATE: Drive is listed as a DVR-106D by firmware checking program.

Memorex DVD+RW

2.4x (only speed provided)

Steve Newcomb

Tucson, AZ USA

[Igor]

Steve,

As I've understood this problem (even now DVD writer not attached to Firewire) doesn't happens always, only rarely? Please try another RW discs, not Memorex.

Probably we'll buy another burning library for the next version to get better result.

[nobeefstu]

Burn.exe Exception Error

I get this error when burning a DVD

Operation failed

Command - Unknown Status - Check Condition, Sense Key - MEDIUM REMOVAL PREVEN (can't read rest of error message)

This is the same error I've been seeing for several months, EXCEPT this time I installed the DVD Drive into the machine. Before this was blamed on the Firewire Connection. This has been removed and the error is the same.

P2E Beta 18

WinXP SP1

Pioneer A09 DVD drive - NOT ATTACHED by firewire

Memorex DVD+RW

2.4x (only speed provided)

Steve Newcomb

Tucson, AZ USA

Steve,

Have you checked your firmware updates on your Pioneer ... as this can have a dramatic impact on using certain mfg. discs/types. ?

I see you are also abit behind on your XP Service Pack updates.

ESP this notice from Pioneer :

"To Customers using the Pioneer DVD/CD Writers "DVR-109 series"

Pioneer is offering a free upgrade for certain DVR-109/109BK and DVR-A09XLA/XLB/XLC and DVR-109XLA1/XLB1/XLC1 and DVR-109AXL/BXL/EXL DVD/CD writers to correct a problem that may occur when recording on DVD+RW discs. If the host computer experiences a buffer underrun during +RW recording, user data may not record properly on the disc and may not be retrievable. The problem can be fixed by downloading and installing the free Firmware Update (v1.09), which is available here. All users of DVR-109 and DVR-A09 drives with firmware versions of 1.05 or lower are encouraged to install this Update "

Heres the link :

http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/product-e/ibs/...e_e/dvr109.html

[sanewcomb]

As I've understood this problem (even now DVD writer not attached to Firewire) doesn't happens always, only rarely?

No, it has happened every time for the last month or so (several beta versions).

Please try another RW discs, not Memorex.

My basic understanding is that certain media work with certain drives. This is the first time I've heard that certain media only works with certain software. If the media works fine with the drive and other programs, shouldn't it work fine with P2E?

Since my post I have tried a number of media with the drive. All of the media works fine with other programs, except once in awhile the generic media will produce a coaster. It doesn't crash the software or create errors. Just it fails the validation process and the software notes this.

COMPUSA Generic 4x DVD-R

Some burns gave error. One burn VB shows checkmark, no error, and could read on PC

Memerex DVD+RW ?

Always gives error and cannot read on PC

Imation DVD+RW ?

Burned with error, but could read on PC at least 1 time

Verbatim DVD-RW 2X

Burned without error, but cannot read on PC

To summarize, almost all burns produce the error message. All of these have played in stand alone DVD Player. Almost none of them can be read by PC. There has been only one burn that produced no errors and could be read by PC and that was the low quality generic disc.

To nobeefstu,

I incorrectly listed the drive. It is actually a Pioneer DVR-106D drive. I've had no problems with it with many other programs over several years, and connected by firewire at that. It uses the default Win XP driver for this brand as the Pioneer site states. The drive can be rendered useless if there is a problem while updating firmware, so I am not likely to try this since it has performed perfectly until P2E.

Steve Newcomb

Tucson, AZ USA

[Igor]

Steve,

It still can be hardware problem, I suppose other program can get it worked, but problem may exists. Currently we don't have other bug-reports on burning process from other members. I remember there were several complaints but only for particular cheap DVD media. If you agree I can make refund of your order for PicturesToExe to compensate wasted money on DVD medias. As alternate way please create ISO image and burn it on Nero or another burning program.

On this support page on Pioneer:

http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/product-e/ibs/...ev00001r_e.html

I see update for your Pioneer DVR-106D drive. If it possible, please install it:

http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/cgi-bin/www1/d...VRA06_FW108.EXE

1.08 Disc setup process Improvement

1.07 DVD-RW Writability Improvement

2X DVD-R Writability Improvement

DVD Playability Improvement

1.06 4X DVD-R Writability Improvement

2X DVD-RW Writability Improvement

Defect management(DRT-DM) Improvement

+RW Readability Improvement

If Pioneer says "Writability Improvement" probably it may help in this case.

[sanewcomb]

Hi Igor,

My posts here aren't to complain. They are just feedback for you to improve P2E. Absolutely no refund necessary.

It could be hardware, but since many other programs don't produce these errors I don't think it is. Plus, there are errors (disk shows no files on PC) even when it reports a successful burn.

The firmware on my computer is 1.06. There are two additional updates. 1.07 concerns DVD- media (almost all of the current media I have is +). 1.08 deals with setup issues. Therefore, these updates will likely make no difference in writing + media with a chance the drive will be inoperable.

Do whatever you want with this information. I suspect not that many users are burning DVDs while it is in beta status. And perhaps few care if it can be read on a PC. I personally would find it useful to include the original images, plus MPG files to show on a computer.

As I understand it, if we create DVD files and burn them with another program it will result in the same quality as a DVD made with VB?

Thanks for you help and good job on P2E.

Steve Newcomb

Tucson, AZ USA

[Igor]

Steve,

Excuse me, please, if my offer was incorrect, just I wanted to compensite your expenses on DVD medias because burning was not successful.

We'll try to solve this problem. I'll write again to the company who licensed us burning library.

Thank you for your patience and help.

[Guest Techman1]

As I understand it, if we create DVD files and burn them with another program it will result in the same quality as a DVD made with VB?

Steve,

I've created numerous DVD's using Pioneer drives and burning to DVD+ media. Regarding your question above, I have created ISO files from Video Builder and then used Nero to actually burn to the DVD. This way, I only have to render it once and then if I need additional copies later, I can create another DVD in a few minutes. I haven't seen any difference in the quality of the final DVD, either burning using Video Builder directly or by creating the ISO first and then using Nero to burn the DVD. Both seem to be the same quality to me.

I had some problems early on with burning DVD's (especially DVD+RW's) through Video Builder until Igor updated to the current burning library. Since then, everything has been very stable. As Igor states, maybe the Burning Library company has an update or some suggestions with regard to your particular model of DVD Burner (mine are a little newer, so that may be the difference).

Do you happen to have Nero installed? One copy of Nero I got from the Pioneer DVD Burner package (hopefully you did to). If you have it, maybe you can try to do the actual burning from it and let us know if it works. Do you have any DVD+RW disks (so you don't create any more coasters).

Anyway, good luck and let us know how you proceed.

Best regards,

Fred

[sanewcomb]

Hi Fred,

I do have other software and can take the route you mention. I does work without errors. My comments on this forum are mainly to make P2E a better software program and I assume others will face similar problems I've seen.

I would think the ISO file route would make identical quality, but I'm interested in being able to put other files on the DVD at the same time. To do this I would have to go the MPEG route. I'm still not sure if Nero will accept these MPEG files as is, and just copy them straight to the DVD file structure, or whether it re-transcodes (decompresses and recompresses) the files, which would result in some quality loss as well as a lot of extra time.

I had some problems early on with burning DVD's (especially DVD+RW's) through Video Builder until Igor updated to the current burning library. Since then, everything has been very stable.

Are you able to see all the files on the DVD on your PC?

Have you tried adding extra files, in addition to the PTE shows?

The discs I've burned seem to work fine in the stand alone DVD player, but have errors when trying to read or use them with the PC. This is true whether or not the Video Builder reports an error.

Steve Newcomb

Tucson, AZ USA

[Guest Techman1]

Are you able to see all the files on the DVD on your PC?

Have you tried adding extra files, in addition to the PTE shows?

The discs I've burned seem to work fine in the stand alone DVD player, but have errors when trying to read or use them with the PC. This is true whether or not the Video Builder reports an error.

Steve,

I just created a test DVD using Video Builder. I also added some various files (*.DOC, *.PDF, etc.) to the DVD. All the files can be viewed via the PC including the DVD files. The DVD plays fine on the PC and on a stand alone DVD player.

This was using Video Builder's burn to DVD option and not with the ISO option discussed earlier. I burned this onto a DVD+RW. My PC has two DVD drives and both were able to view the files and play the DVD.

I hope this helps a little.

Regards,

Fred

[Igor]

Steve,

We discussed this problem and I'm sure that AuthoringWare company who licensed us burning library will ask you install latest firmware update for your DVD writer.

Because as written above updated firmware includes: "DVD-RW Writability Improvement

2X DVD-R Writability Improvement DVD Playability Improvement". Maybe it contains other not announced improvements. It deserves to try it.

Only if this update will not help, they will solve this problem.

I bring my apologies for this problem.

[sanewcomb]

Because as written above updated firmware includes: "DVD-RW Writability Improvement

2X DVD-R Writability Improvement DVD Playability Improvement". Maybe it contains other not announced improvements. It deserves to try it.

Only if this update will not help, they will solve this problem.

I'll pass for now. If I'm the only one reporting this kind of problem, then clearly it has something to do with this particular system. I'll wait to see if anyone else reports the problem.

Thanks for the help and good luck on the final release. I'm off to the lake for 11 days

Steve Newcomb

Tucson, AZ USA

[Guest Techman1]

Steve,

Enjoy the lake! I hope the fishing, hiking or just relaxing is great. I'm sure you'll enjoy the time off.

Have a safe trip.

Fred