Truelight Posted December 19, 2002 Report Posted December 19, 2002 I don't want to seem demanding in a forum that is not my own to command, but it is my opinion that we deparately NEED subcategories for messages in this forum. I am finding this new layout (and perhaps the increased use of it) makes it very difficult to determine what I've read and not read, what is new, and to find stuff I'm interested in reading v.s. fluff that perhaps I'm not so excited about. Like the Dpreview site, we very much need subcategories in the PTE forum!In fact...I would consider this a greater priority than the next PTE upgrade! This website and the help that is available here is one of the greatest advantages to using PTE as opposed to "Brand X." Greater organization will take that one notch higher. Igor... please let us know if this is forthcoming. Quote
Ken Cox Posted December 19, 2002 Report Posted December 19, 2002 Agree **********10 stars i think that is what Casey was working towardswe have been thru a very big yearIgor had to get a new hostIgor made numerous upgrades to the programthe other forum was getting way out of handlet us stop the snowball now before it gets too big and we end up with a hodgepoge forum againmy 2 cents Canadian -- granted it aint worth much on the world market, but the best we can do an example of a forum with the sort of things we need can be seen athttp://www.windowsbbs.com/it will show the last active posts in each category etcI imagine Invision would modify for our needs -- 'tis up to Igor to ask -- but if Igor and co are busy sorting out the layout and trying to institute getting all the old posts up to this forum something has to suffer -- and that will be revising/updating 3.8 will have to go on holdyou cant have your cake and eat it tooso people what's it gonna be ?????????voice your comments so that Igor can see which direction to go -- BUT dont start another thread keep it in this oneken Quote
Truelight Posted December 19, 2002 Author Report Posted December 19, 2002 Speaking of keeping things in the same thread, what happened to the "Free Stuff" thread? I had to start a new one for my post on the thumbnails/calendar programs because I couldn't find the old one. Just another reason for more organization here! Quote
HaroldB Posted December 19, 2002 Report Posted December 19, 2002 FWIW, the current software already shows you what you've not read and let's you go right there.Threads are listed in reverse chronological order. All threads that have messages that are new for you have a little down-pointing arrow to the left of the thread name. Click on the little arrow and not the thread name and it goes directly to the first message in the thread that is new for you.The only problem I see with this is that I don't know of a way to set yourself "backwards in time". So, for example, if you log on at 1pm and DON'T read all your "new" messages, when you log on at 3pm, it won't flag them as "new" any more since it uses your last logon time and the message post times to do the flagging.That's why I find it easier to just have one list when reading all messages in a forum. It DOES make it harder to find something, though -- I haven't used the search function so I don't know how effective that is.Harold Quote
boxig Posted December 19, 2002 Report Posted December 19, 2002 Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes.There are two or three threads about this topic. So if nobody do nothing I have to come with an idea, at least to solve part of the problem.We can start our "subject" with a letter:Example:SM - topic subjet.. (Sound and music)Sy - topic subjet.. (Synchronizing topics)IMG - topic subjet.. (images)CD - topic subjet.. (CD problems)Com - topic subjet.. (computer...)Gen - topic subjet.. (General and other) Quote
Ernst Posted December 20, 2002 Report Posted December 20, 2002 I am glad that this Topic of Getting Organized is modern again. I started a topic about getting organized and make several sub-forums, and several members had additional ideas and suggestions. Just to refresh memories, here did it start:Let´s get organizedMaybe Igor can paste the messages of these two topic, into one now. This is one moe reason to get OrganizedRegardsErnst Quote
LES Posted December 20, 2002 Report Posted December 20, 2002 I don't do a lot of posting but I do read the threads of this and some other forums quite a bit. I too, am finding it very difficult to find the topics and posts that are meaningful to me.There was mention of the DPReview forum in the original post. Well, I personally think that is one of the best structures for a forum I have seen. You can navigate to various topics, see in a glance who has originated new posts, responded to the posts and any sub-topics to the original topic. It's very slick but it must be proprietary since I have not seen that structure anyplace else. Anyway, something similar here would solve a lot of our problems. Quote
Ernst Posted December 20, 2002 Report Posted December 20, 2002 If there is some doubt about getting organized and how to do it, Admin could set up a New Poll. This Invision software allows that. That might give some idea of what we want and how we want it.Once the general poll is completed, a second more refined one could be setup.Regards Ernst Quote
Truelight Posted January 8, 2003 Author Report Posted January 8, 2003 Thought I'd make this one rise to the top again having seen -no- action to make it happen. I can only assume:- Wnsoft is too busy with other things to make this happenor--- Wnsoft disagrees that this is a needor --- The Wnsoft team doesn't read the forumWhich is it?? Quote
Ken Cox Posted January 8, 2003 Report Posted January 8, 2003 they agree it needs to be done seehttp://www.picturestoexe.com/forums//index...1&hl=categorieshttp://www.picturestoexe.com/forums//index...&t=120&hl=forumwhy there has been no action on this is anybody's guess, rather than start a flame i will say no more ken Quote
Ernst Posted January 8, 2003 Report Posted January 8, 2003 Yes, certainly, this ALSO is in our wish-list. Maybe Wnsoft does not know how it is done? I understand that Invision board is good and great stuff and has the capability to subdivide forums.Just the first page of this forum a while ago (of a total of ca. 170 topics):Ranked by ReadReplies Read 0 51 481 492 856 852 891 1043 1083 1145 1357 14012 1629 1711 1729 1834 2039 23910 28310 319Ranked by RepliesReplies Read0 51 481 491 1041 1722 852 893 1083 1144 2035 1356 857 1409 1719 1839 23910 28310 31912 162Lots reading, no more than 12 replies for 162 readers, no more than 10 replies for 319 readers, threads started several times, and so on. It is getting very messy, and one starts losing interest in reading back and forth. Finally if you want to answer to a post of a thread started several times, where do you post?I understand it is not difficult to divide the BIG forum-site in sub-forums.I am using Ikonboard at my place (just starting) and it works fine and it is really easy to implement. Admoinbistrator of forum have several powerful tools to manage the forums. You even can move posts from one forum to the other. So, if here the house is cleaned up, it should be easy for the administrator to group posts (and/or threads) into categories. RegardsErnst Quote
Ken Cox Posted January 8, 2003 Report Posted January 8, 2003 personally i am tracking threads but that is getting to be a pain not everybody are are online all the time or have slow modems etcwe were promised that the old archives would be made available as well to help peopleken Quote
Monty Posted January 9, 2003 Report Posted January 9, 2003 May I suggest that one topic be: For Beginners.I would live in that forum! I've been having a blast with the P2E program and every time I use it I find out something new that's fun and also discover that there's something I'd like to do but don't know how yet. Quote
quietstorm Posted January 10, 2003 Report Posted January 10, 2003 Hello..If Igor and staff starts using categories/sub-topics today... it will take awhile to get all topics, categories, etc. organized and maintained!Trust me, I have been there and it is a pain in the @&*$!This forum has over 1,100 topics, entries, etc. and the old forum had more and I hope Igor has the patience to do this..I didn't when mine "got out of hand" and that is why I started over. Since then, I have got it organized and the member/guest or I can bring up a topic/discussion without a problem within my forum(s).Also..I have noticed there are several repeats of the same subject(s) or topic(s) and this also is frustrating and you do not know what to do next!Maybe Igor's priorities is making a better software and let it's members/guests do what is best in the forum..I can't answer that..only he can!Enough said Bart Quote
Ken Cox Posted January 10, 2003 Report Posted January 10, 2003 every day it gets harder to fix as more entries have to be sortedken Quote
Truelight Posted January 10, 2003 Author Report Posted January 10, 2003 Ken...I'm not suggesting we have Igor (or whoever does the work on the forum?) make this retroactive and try to sort the old messages into categories. I'd be happy if they just set up the system with a few major categories and then allowed them to fill from this point on. New categories would become evident as time went on. It appears to me that no one really monitors the forum. I'm pleased they built it and I'm on here a lot, but as it stands now, it's hard to see what's old, what's new, and to sift through what I may wish to follow and what I don't. The forums on Dpreview get 10-100 times the traffic we do here and they are nicely organized. Quote
Ken Cox Posted January 10, 2003 Report Posted January 10, 2003 Truelight - i agree with you but what is to be done with what is in the existing and/or the stuff that is/was lost we Igor changed hosts ken Quote
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