Please help a pensioner

[davegee]

Original Mode is still there – it is just activated in a different way and takes one more button press.

I make my shows in Fullscreen Mode with images that are 1920x1200 and these images fill my screen (1920x1200 resolution). Imagine that I want, for some reason, to introduce a 1024x768 image in Original Mode.

In 5.5 I went to O&A, clicked on the COMMON tab and changed the mode from Fit To Screen to Original.

What did this do? It changed the image from filling the height of the screen to a 1024x768 image in the centre of my 1920x1200 screen.

In 5.6 I go to O&A, click on the COMMON tab and I see a button marked “Size/Position in pixels…”. I click on this and get a little box marked “Size/Position in pixels of parent”. I click on Size and my image changes from filling the height of the screen to a 1024x768 image in the centre of my 1920x1200 screen. One extra click.

The two methods achieve the same objective – so can someone explain what has changed? I appreciate that it is no longer possible to globally set “Disable Scaling….” in Screen options and hence the Original Mode has to be set for each slide individually, but is that all that this Original Mode arguement is about?

DaveG

[Guest Yachtsman1]

Original Mode is still there – it is just activated in a different way and takes one more button press.

I make my shows in Fullscreen Mode with images that are 1920x1200 and these images fill my screen (1920x1200 resolution). Imagine that I want, for some reason, to introduce a 1024x768 image in Original Mode.

In 5.5 I went to O&A, clicked on the COMMON tab and changed the mode from Fit To Screen to Original.

What did this do? It changed the image from filling the height of the screen to a 1024x768 image in the centre of my 1920x1200 screen.

In 5.6 I go to O&A, click on the COMMON tab and I see a button marked “Size/Position in pixels…”. I click on this and get a little box marked “Size/Position in pixels of parent”. I click on Size and my image changes from filling the height of the screen to a 1024x768 image in the centre of my 1920x1200 screen. One extra click.

The two methods achieve the same objective – so can someone explain what has changed? I appreciate that it is no longer possible to globally set “Disable Scaling….” in Screen options and hence the Original Mode has to be set for each slide individually, but is that all that this Original Mode arguement is about?

DaveG

Hi Daveg

I to am a pensioner approaching my 70th year, to answer your question, I would suggest the reluctance for change is a natural function of getting older. There are many of us who spent weeks or months even years getting their heads around their chosen version of PTE, only to have someone come along and want to upset the apple cart by changing things. For myself I came to where I am through 5 then 5.5, I am quite happy with 5.5, going back to 5 confuses me. So My solution is to sit here in splendid isolation until the current beta version is finalised, look at it and if it suits, use it. Life's too short to fret.

Yachtsman1

[davegee]

Thanks, but that doesn't answer my question?

DaveG

[fh1805]

It is more than just the number of clicks or the presence/absence of "Original" as a mode.

A significant number of users of PTE have developed a way of working that enables them, quickly and easily, to change a sequence so that it appears correctly on a 1024x768 projector, or on a 1280x1024 PC screen or any other size of screen and also within the TV safe Zone when produced as a DVD-Video. I am in a very active dialogue with JPD to understand both the current method and the implications of his proposal.

JPD explained his proposal using precise mathematics to illustrate its behaviour. I am now learning about it so that I can try and explain it on the forum in simple terms without all the mathematics.

Emotions have already been aroused elsewhere on the forum in discussions about this subject. As I have pleaded elsewhere on the forum: please give JPD and I more time for me to get a thorough and accurate understanding of both the old method and the new proposal.

Further debate based on mis-understandings and mis-conceptions will serve only further to inflame those already heightened emotions.

Patience, PLEASE!!!

regards,

Peter

[davegee]

Hi Peter,

I REALLY appreciate what you are trying to do.

However it all seems to centre around "Original Mode" which as I said above IS STILL THERE.

I have to admit that, because of the obvious translation problems, I don't know what a CALE is, but I can make a show which will adapt to any size screen and look exactly the same in any resolution/aspect ratio using FRAMES. I have been trying to explain resolution/aspect ratio for a LONG time.

I just don't understand why Original Mode is such a problem - IT IS STILL THERE. That's all I wanted to know.

I have all the patience in the world but there must be others like me who would like an explanation (that we can understand) of what this is all about.

DaveG

[xahu34]

...I just don't understand why Original Mode is such a problem - IT IS STILL THERE...

Dave,

This is not completely true. In 5.6 all real children objects can be placed relative to the original pixel dimensions of their direct parents; so in my eyes you can do similar things as you could do with original mode. But: The objects on the top level have the actual monitor as their parent, which means that their pixel coordinates depend on the computer on which the user is working, and they can change if the user replaces the monitor, or if he continues working on another machine. This is not a good concept. So it would be good to have a "virtual monitor" on top level with a user defined resolution, and with options how this virtual monitor should be mapped to the real monitor. Possible options can be seen in JPD's well known post #82. There may be workarounds by using a dummy object as a root object for all others (not very elegant in my opinion).

Best regards,

Xaver

Munich