Igor Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 I've uploaded one of my slideshows on YouTube in HD format (1280x720) using PicturesToExe Deluxe 5.6:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pKyDLeOXOU&fmt=22How do you find quality of picture and smoothness of playback for such kind of slideshow?It seems that same H.264 file plays better in video player than online on PC. YouTube requires more powerful computer to play HD videos. Quote
jevans Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Hi Igor,On my old desktop the show is very jerky and un-watchable. However on my new desktop, (spec attached), the show is very smooth. Is that your garden and are the owls real? If so I am very envious. I have a large garden but itis not in your class.RegardsJeff Quote
Igor Posted March 24, 2009 Author Report Posted March 24, 2009 Jeff,Yes, real owls in our garden located around our summer house. It was terrific see them sunny day in so nearest distance.Thanks for testing! Quote
stardealer Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Paused the video until it preloaded enough, then played.Some minor stuttering at the beginning (moving text) and drastic stutter with every panned picture (2 or 3 I think). Specs are 1.8 Ghz AMD 64, new Geforce 9600GT, 2GB RAM.Regards, Frank Quote
LumenLux Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Picture quality is very good. But motion is in definite steps. Not pleasant to try to watch.Pentium 4 3.2 ghz, 3.0 gb ramNvidia GeForce 8800 GT Quote
bharkins Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Very smooth on my HP laptop with 2 Ghz CPU. I haven't done much photography for the past year, but I follow the Forum. Your latest PTE version and YouTube capability is great - I'll have to get back into it.Bill Quote
bmccammon Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Playback is smooth as glass on my system. Intel Core 2 Duo procesor, 4 gb RAM, GeForce 8800GT video with 256mb Quote
Scorpion Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 HD - Full screen mode and normal mode: very smooth. System: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 (2 x 3.00GHz) - 2GB Ram - GeForce 9500GT 1024MBWindows XP Sp3 Home Edition - IExplorer7. Quote
thedom Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Perfectly smooth on my PC (in full screen 1920x1200).I am impressed by the quality, even if you can see pixels on rare occasion during some transitions.If I watch it 1 meter away from my screen (24'), it's almost perfect.Configuration :Intel Core Quad CPU Q9300 @ 2.50GhzNVIDIA GeForce 9600 GS Quote
JPD Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Your slideshow seems smooth, but I have made many tests on and Viméo and am not so optimist as you.The picture of Youtube are really better than those of Viméo.... but there is a problem with Youtube mp4 which aren't really smooth, even when reading the file from Youtube directly on the hard disk with MPC for instance.Of course the slideshow for test I used is difficult, but it's not a reason.All the frames are in it and good, but it's absolutely not smooth (the file from PTE is perfect).For both, the same frame resize in Photoshop at 1920 x 1080 aren't so good than the one of a mp4 from PTE which have the same size as the Viméo file (93 Mo) but with a definition of 800 x 450 at 60 fps and also resize in Photoshop at the same value of 1920 x 1080 (Youtube file is 116 Mo for the same slideshow). Quote
Adda Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 My PC is to slow for those HD-Shows.Pentium 4 3 GHz.2 GB Ram.Grafik: GForce 6600 GTNo chance to play smooth.Best regardsAdda Quote
Conflow Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 Hi Igor,Smooth as silk on this Hewlett-Packard Laptop (Presario 5500) ~ Intel Duo-Centrino Processor ( 2 x 1.66 Gb).Using the Intel-Intergrated 945 North/South Video Chipset. (All Tech-Specs below -plus- I Full Screen Image).No special Graphic-Card installed. (L2-Processor's Cache are 2 x 2.Mb).Your 'You-Tube Show' was tried in native You-Tube Format and also in Full-Screen 15" (see Screen-Shot).Barely perceivable ~ was a tiny amount of pixellation on 2 Frames ~ this would not be seen by the Public.Some comments:-(a)Except for (Duo & Quad Core-Processors) owned by 'The Dom' ~ Scorpion ~ Bmccamon ~ BHarkins and myselfand a few others ~ All other PCs are Single-Processor Machines which are showing some degree of stress.(Recently I was making the argument to retain Pte 4.49 (or similar) for low performance PC's such as the PentiumsV.1 and II and III. I think this great 'You-Tube Show' may have proved that point when comparing the performance of Pte 5.6 (+HD) on a Multi-Processor PC against the very best of Single-Processor PCs such as PentiumIV etc. As you are aware there are many other PC's with much lower stability and performance than the 'top-end' Pentium's..Hope this report is useful too you,Brian.Conflow. Quote
JPD Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 It seems that same H.264 file plays better in video player than online on PC.That's right Quote
Ken Cox Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 mp4 = 28.4 mb retrieved from temp int folder - smoothavi = 17.9 mb converted by firefox - some pixelation on transitionsi was running nearly max bandwidth with other downloads at same time ken Quote
Ken Cox Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 with hd button onjerky - unwatchable -- my other activities were stopped and had all bandwitdth available pent 4 2.8 mhz - 2 gb memory - 4 gb min/max page on separate drive -- 256 mb graphics boardrunning it again made no differencewith hd button off - smooth, tho some pixellation on transitionsken Quote
Ken Cox Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 FLV FORMAT = 4.4 MBLOT OF PIXELATIONKEN Quote
Picsel Posted March 30, 2009 Report Posted March 30, 2009 Hi Igorjust for your recordYour video on Youtube : playback is very smooth in full screen (1440x900) HD mode but I waited until the upload be completed before readingFS Amilo Dual core T5200 1,6Ghz 2Go Ram Nvidia GeForce 7600 / XP-SP2Best regardsDaniel Quote
Lin Evans Posted March 30, 2009 Report Posted March 30, 2009 Hi Igor,Youtube playback is apparently highly variable. The first time I played the video (after allowing the entire show to completely load first), the transitions were jerky and pans were quite jerky. However, once the show had completely played, I played it back again and it was butter smooth.I have noticed this before and wonder whether there might not be caching on the local computer which allows playback from the cache upon the second play rather than from the internet? I have seen similar playback on my own shows on Youtube where initially the playback was quite jerky then upon subsequent plays it was quite smooth.The system I played it back on has a medium high-end video card (nVIdia, 8800 GT) and a fairly powerful core 2 duo Intel processor with plenty of RAM.Best regards,Lin Quote
Ronniebootwest Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 Hello Igor,You Utube slide show is perfect in every way!It is as smoothe as silk on my computer, without any sign of jerks and the visual quality is astonishing.Bloody good photography as well! Ron West Quote
Conflow Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 Lin,You wrote..."I have seen similar playback on my own shows on Youtube where initially the playback was quite jerky then upon subsequent plays it was quite smooth"...That happens on quite a few PCs and there are number of causes:-1) Anti-Virus is 'buffering-up' the Download when playing directly from the Local ISP Server. (jerky effect)2)Some ISP Servers 'break-up' large downloads and 'batch-buffer' these to the Client, same effect.3) When you download the File and on 1st.Replay the Processor has to 'render' out that File (inc gaps)but on 2nd.Replay the Processor has re-composited the File and usually there is no jerky-effect.4)Low-end Processors (Celerons) cant 'render' YouTube nor Pte5.6 fast enough, same effect again.5)PCs with low levels of L2-Cache Memory will give a 'jerky-effect' as the Processor cant access Main Memory.6)No matter how good the Video-Card if it cant get access to the 'video-data' in a smooth linear way then we have problems which cant be resolved unless one replaces the Processor ~ if the Motherboard is suitable !Finally:-YouTube, Vimeo and Flickr have a preference for (mass-audience) 'CamCorder-Video Format' which works well but when it comes to emulating that with PTE.5.6 (with PZR) it's an entirely different technology not always suited to those Servers.It's my opinion:- That its Igors' reason for this 'PTE Show Survey' but so far we have not heard from Igor nor the WnSoft Team. At this stage, it would be nice to have some 'feedback' from them as to how things are going. Hope this helps...Brian. Quote
Igor Posted March 31, 2009 Author Report Posted March 31, 2009 Thanks for testing!Now after reading of your responses I think that HD output on YouTube is a subject of future. It is not ready for wide usage yet. Quote
Conflow Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 Igor,Very many thanks for the 'feedback' and as you say HD-Output to YouTube is for the future ~Perhaps YouTube is not ready for this Hi-Quality Video and we also know that many Forum PCscan not use Pte-HD at all. Is it possible for the WnSoft Team to look at 'Cam-Video Format' thatmight be a solution?...I must say it was a excellent 'Survey' and it exposed many PC problemswhich are limiting the quest for High-Definition Video.Thanks again,Brian.Conflow Services Quote
JEB Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 Igor,HP PavilionIntel Centrino Duo T2500 @ 2.00MHzNVIDA Go7600 256 MBPlayed 2 times very smoothly except for minor stutter in last vertical pan on each occasion. Played in full screen mode for third time - as smooth as silk.Very impressed as this is the first time I have knowingly watched a PTE show in this way.RegardsJohn Quote
Ronniebootwest Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 Thanks for testing!Now after reading of your responses I think that HD output on YouTube is a subject of future. It is not ready for wide usage yet.Hello Igor,When I read thru the responses to your request, I thought that they were very positive so why do you think that HD is someting for the future? Most people are now beginning to realise that they ought to upgrade their equipment, although a good number already have done so. I would be unhappy to see you put HD on the back burner - it is the future, so please continue your work in this area. What you have achieved so far, is excellent work.Ron Quote
lathompson Posted April 1, 2009 Report Posted April 1, 2009 Had to wait for loading of show as it plays faster than it was downloading. I suspect that this was due to the fact I have a slower DSL connection. After allowing download time, the show played as perfect as I could ever expect. Transitions were smooth. PC INFO:eMachine2.00 gigahertz AMD Athlon 642432 Megabytes Installed Memory128 kilobyte primary memory cache512 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: MS-7093Bus Clock: 199 megahertz Quote
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